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The name comes from a student who was in a class that Debra and Sara were teaching. She said she loved asking a question and getting a really juicy, in depth, OVER answers to her questions. Debra and Sara really do over answer every question. This student proclaimed that she was going to bring a roll of quarters and keep feeding the juke-box to hear all the hits...she was gonna “put a quarter in it and just sit back and listen”. We thought that was really funny and it has stuck.
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Last episode Sara and Debra introduced us to three Wu's - The Wu Ji, the great nothingness from which we come; The Wuxing, the five element model as it is known today; and finally The Wu Tao, where Earth returns to the center to work in cooperation as opposed to being controlled. With Earth in the middle, she is the great midwife, and as Debra says, she is birthing the next phases all around the wheel. It is good news that Earth is returning to the center, for she can self regulate from that position. In this episode Sara and Debra talk about how to get the body into the Wu Tao as you work on it. This helps the body itself, to self relegate as well as amplify the healing process.
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In our last episode, Sarah and Deborah introduced us to three Wu's. The Wu Ji, the great nothingness from which we came, the Wu Xing, the five-element model as we have known it today, and finally the Wu Tao, where Earth returns to the center, to work in cooperation as opposed to being controlled. With Earth in the middle, she is the great midwife. And as Deborah says, she is birthing the next phase all around the wheel. It is good news that Earth is returning to the center, for she can self-regulate from that position. In this episode, Sarah and Deborah talk about how to get the body into Wu Tao as you work on it. This helps the body also to self-regulate as well as amplify the healing process. Let's jump in.
SPEAKER_03This whole thing that we talk constantly about chaos, because you know, we we heal bodies that are in chaos and and we organize those, those organizing forces. And the most organizing force in a system is always the earth.
SPEAKER_02You know, it's it's I hadn't thought about this before, but while we've been having this conversation, the one place that Earth has stayed in the middle is the bagwa that they use in Feng Shui.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So we've got we we still have this organizing principle for the home, which is you know not why I mean it's used, certainly, but I wouldn't say it's used worldwide. But we don't use that same so we we use that organization to maintain a living space in a harmonious way, but we don't use that organization on the body. Huh.
SPEAKER_03Can you tell me more about that?
SPEAKER_02Well, we're we've got earth in the middle in the in that system of feng shui. Yeah. You know, I'm not I'm not a feng shui practitioner, but I do I do know that about the process. And yet we're using the the the wu Xing with bodies. We're trying, you know, we're we're starting to see the motion away from the Wuzing and back to the Wu Tao, the Wu Tao being the model with the earth in the middle. But I just find it so interesting. There must be some kind of some kind of friction between that, you know the if the home is organized around the the Wu Tao and the body is being treated with the Wu Xing, what happens to Whose home is around the boog those who are using that system.
SPEAKER_03Oh, okay. Right. Yeah. I wonder I wonder if if they do that, if they impose that in their homes, if the earth in the middle goes to the middle.
SPEAKER_02Well, that's yeah, that's what I'm wondering. Yeah, because I'm seeing And is there a is there a a period of friction or disturbance while as the body start tries to move back toward that? I'm really curious. I'm sure somebody out there has done some kind of you know, has noticed something about this. But I hadn't really thought about that before.
SPEAKER_03You know, when the when the earth does move into the middle, one of the ways I know that somebody is uh when their physiology has adopted this ancient and and what I'm seeing more and more since 2005, I think 2003 or 2005 was when I first started noticing that Earth was no longer on the outside in about 20 percent of the people I was working on. Yeah. And that sounds about right. And and now it's probably 80%. Earth is in the middle. And how I particularly noticed that is when I went to hold the control points, the star in the center. When I went to hold the control points, the session that I had just done would fall apart. So I would be working on a body, and you know, you you you hold the first set of points, and then you hold the first, the second set of points. It's kind of automatic. And I just started to notice that I would hold that first set of points and I held that second set of points, and things would fall apart what I just did. And I'm like, hmm, that's strange. So I stopped holding second points on a lot of people. But I energy tested. Yeah. And I didn't know what was happening.
SPEAKER_02Well, ex uh explain for our home audience how you energy test the second set of points. So what I think's cool. Yeah, and it works great.
SPEAKER_03So for so we know we know so well, uh most of us Eden Huds know when we go to sedate triple warmer, we're gonna hold stomach 36 just below the knee, and we're gonna hold triple warmer 10 right on the elbow. And we hold those points together until we feel some sign of pulsing, and it's usually two and a half to three minutes. And then the set of control points, it's triple warmer two and bladder. So I would go to approach the second set, and I would see rebellion in the physio, physiology. I didn't understand. So what I started to do is I just every so every time I would do this, and if there if I was having a body that was saying, no, don't touch those second points, it would almost look like like somebody was like, I startled them. Yeah, like I had a uh it it would recoil, but it was more like, you know, when you accidentally shock somebody. Yeah, like a static electricity. It was like I would go to touch these points and there would be like a little jolt, like like a static shock. Yeah. So that's weird too. So I started to just tap. I would just go bink, bink, one, two, and simultaneously, I would tap, and I usually just did it twice. And of course, this is the sound of tapping. Beep, beep.
SPEAKER_02So what is the sound of two hands tapping?
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SPEAKER_03So I would tap the second set, and then I would energy test immediately, and they would go weak, and I stopped. I so I wouldn't do that. Yeah, but if I tap those second points and their body stayed strong, I would hold them. So that started for a long time, and I'm like, this is odd, but some bodies don't want, and I started to say it out loud. Some bodies don't want to be controlled. And I thought, this is odd. So, but I listen to the body, I don't listen to the, you know, if if if the body disagrees with what's on the written handout, I will go with the body every time. 100%. Every single time. So I didn't know why, but about half the time I wasn't holding second sets of points. So I just I and I always asked, I always asked. So as time went on, and I started to really start to really understand what was happening, was that this body doesn't need a control cycle. And when I started to look at the earth in the middle, the the five-element wheel that looks like a little Maltese cross, if you join those sides, I was like, where's triple warmer and circus sex? I could see where bladder and kidney go. There's a spot for them. I could see where gallbladder and liver went, I could see where fire, where heart and small intestine went, I can see where uh lung and large intestine, of course, with earth in the middle, we got our stomach and spleen. I'm like, where the hell's triple warmer and circus sex? So in the expansive nature of the original five-element wheel, they talk about a pulsing. It's like a breath, and that there's an in and there's an out. There's an expansion and there's a contraction. There's like an expansion and contraction, and that is how the energy is moved around the circle with earth in the middle. It's a pulsing. It's like a um, that's what moves the qi. It doesn't move it in a circle, it moves it in a pulse. And so it pulses. And so you and so what started to happen was when I would see it get big, the pulse would get big when I was in the process of doing that, I realized that that was triple warmer expanding something. And then I would see that pulse pull back in. So the thing that the it would and almost sometimes it didn't have a noise. I don't hear sounds like some people do, but it did have this impression of going, mmm, mmm, back and forth. That's not a cow. That's pulsing. Okay, okay. It always sounds like a cow. So, and I started to understand that that what was happening, it was getting bigger and smaller, it was getting bigger and smaller, like the breath, like a lung. It looked like somebody's shoulders when they would take a breath in and out. And so I started to see this pulsing. And when they were pulsing like that on the table, they did not need controls. So what I started to see was the difference between scalar and vector. So when we are in vector, meaning push.
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SPEAKER_03Check the vector, Victor! Sorry, we can't we cannot say vector. No, we can't do it without without Victor. With without Leslie Nielsen in the background. So we just can't do it. All right, now I forgot my damn thought. When it's pulsing. Pulsing. When it's pulsing, we don't need that. And so what that started to look to me like, because when it would pulse, it would, it would go, and then it would get bigger. Like it would enlarge. So I, you know, I knew there was good things happening. And it would get pretty, you know, that that pretty the colorful and pretty. You know, if it's colorful and pretty, I know I'm on the right track, you know. And that's that's a scientific term. If it's colorful and pretty, you're gonna get better. So it was so different than when I would hold the second set, I could see the energy getting pushed around like I was pushing a cart. It was really, really different. And I could get it there, and it would, it would, I would still get really good results, but I was directing it as opposed to letting it. Yeah. So there is, as we move into this different age, and we're talking about the difference between the Wu Tao and the Wu Xing, it seems like the Wuzing has vector, needing my interference to manage it. The Wu Tao is self-regulating. I don't have to, I put those things in place, and then the expansion starts to happen. I don't have to go back and clean up anything on aisle seven. After if it if it's if it's in Wu Tao, it is self-regulating. Yeah. It was so freeing. I mean, I was able to do so much more work. I didn't have to do all this control stuff. And what happened was the receptivity of that person on the table. They were getting, they were, it was like they were getting five sessions in one. Yeah, the immigration is much smoother.
SPEAKER_02So big smoother less backlash.
SPEAKER_03Exactly. So I really felt like, oh, this is something's happening here. Whenever I see ease, whenever I've whenever I see efficient, like I was ending sessions 10 minutes early, that never happens. You know, it looks like I was able to get them out the door, you know, productive, productivity. So things are moving now. They're moving now. And they would move naturally. So there was this, it was just completely different. And but the receptivity to being able to pers receive this. So I think when you put Earth back in the center, because we swim in so many synchronicities that will serve us, when you put her back in the center, she can receive them. She's not busy policing. Yeah, she's busy doing what she's supposed to do. Triple warmer is no longer policing, he's looking for the good stuff. Yeah. He's the guy. When I go into TJ Maxx, I can find the Chanel, because a triple warmer is balanced. That's right. Right.
SPEAKER_01He can he can find that formula. Find the Chanel. He can find the Chanel. He's on the Chanel Chanel. Chanel Chanel.
SPEAKER_03So so when when he gets freed up and she gets freed up, things just start to pulse, thrive, and that person does not have to self-regulate, self-manage. Things come easy. Ease starts to happen. We like ease. We like ease. Less friction. Less friction. Friction breaks down tissue. So I really love this, and I really started to encourage it, and I started to read about it and started to write about it. And it it is an accelerant, I swear, five sessions in one when you do a Wu Tao. So because you're not having to manage all the little mishigosh, Earth knows where all that's at. She's got that totally under control. And I put her in the center of that session, and that session revolves around her, and that person is so much better. So that's the wuji, the big nothing, the no thing. The no thing. No dash thing. Yep. Then we have the wu tao, which is the original 5,000 years ago, Earth in the center. Earth in the center.
SPEAKER_02Something happened to the Earth.
SPEAKER_03Everything spinning around her central balance, central stability. And when her structure changed, there was a terrible thing that happened on the planet, or or not terrible. I mean, we're assuming it's terrible. But you know, there was probably lots of deaf. I mean I have a feeling somebody said it was terrible. When Atlantis fell, I'm sure they went, oh crap.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, probably. At least. They're like, oh, oh. What? Lemuria too? Jeez, what else are we gonna lose?
SPEAKER_03So yeah, so I think that truly, I, you know, we we are we are currently know so much about all the awful things that are happening, and I know we focus on that, but I think we're really moving into a thousand age of of aquariums. Something good. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And it's um in the physiology will be more supported. Our physiology, we we're just not gonna get in as much trouble physically, because when we go back to structuring ourselves like she's structured, and we begin to mirror her, we're not we're not in opposition to any of the movements that she's making. Yeah. So yeah. So we stay moist in the right places, dry in the right places, clear in the right places, foggy in the right places.
SPEAKER_02Yep. That would be nice. And we remember stuff. And we remember stuff.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, so that Wu Jing. So one of the ways I put people in the Wu Tao, and you can do this manually, and it works almost all the time, is at the beginning of every session, some some of you have been studying with me for a long time, this will be old news. But at the beginning of every session, what I do is very much like when we energy test for food, when we weaken spleen. I will weaken spleen by pinching that latissimus dorsi on the back, and I'll make sure that spleen's weak. And then what I will do while spleen is weak, normally we would hand somebody a food substance in that moment and see if it makes spleen strong, right?
SPEAKER_04Right.
SPEAKER_03So most of us know how to do that. What I would do instead is I would run triple warmer backwards once, just on one side of the head, just enough, and then I would check that against spleen. And if that little bitty baby interference on triple warmer made spleen strong, I would initiate that session by sedating triple warmer. That tells me, well, then then or the other thing I would do, let's so let's say spleen stayed weak when I ran triple warmer backwards that one time. So then I'm gonna run cirque sex backwards and see if that strengthens spleen. And if that strengthens spleen, then I'm gonna start the session by sedating cirque sex. So one way or the other, those systems are going to put earth in the middle. So what I've done is I've made this entire session by saying at the very beginning, which system will serve you today's spleen best? And she chooses. She says, I need to expand things, I'm too contracted, I've got too many accumulations, I need to get out there, I need to run, I need to get big, I need triple warmer today. Or she says, if spleen says, I've been too out there, I've been such a mess, I really need to contract, I really need the quiet, I really need the cool, I'm gonna start that session by by sedating Cirque Sex. And by doing that, establishing that in the first two seconds of that session, I have said to Triple Warmer and I have said to Cirque Sex, you are here to serve Earth. You're here to serve Spling. That's your job. And they go, nobody said that to us for 5,000 years. We're really grateful. Thank you.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, really.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. We've been, we've been we've been slaving, you know, it's not our job. And we've been, you know, we keep telling people. Keep telling management that, you know, we that was not in our job description, you know, when we got hired. That's right. And nobody listens. I keep threatening to quit, but I can't. I'm in the same ship. Yeah. I'm on the same car. So, yeah, so triple warmer. So that's how I I will do that. Now, sometimes I still need to hold second set points, but I've still, when I have asked which system, I have put the systems in servitude. Yeah. And you may wonder why am I sedating? Well, when I run when we run triple warmer backwards, where does the energy go first? It goes into earth. It's connected with stomach 36. And when we sedate cirque sex, where does it go? It goes into spleen. It goes into earth, right? So we have so every time, and the only time triple warmer and cirque sex interact is through spleen and stomach. We don't hold those sets of points with any other meridian. It's only with with cirque sex uh spleen and stomach. So you can see just in that design that they're they're meant to be together and they're meant to serve that. And they're 24-hour partners. 24 hours, and they're both 24-hour partners. Yeah. So there is that that crossing, that relationship between when we see the wujing with the five elements on the outside of the wing, we can see that formation. So that's why we sedate. Once in a while, I'll get that question when I've explained why do we sedate every time? Because that runs it into Earth. And that's that's where that's the that's how we ask Earth, who do you want today? Do you know, do you need to get bigger? Do you need to get smaller? And and I've often said before that there's really only two kinds of diseases. There's diseases that expand and diseases that contract. And a really good example of an expansion disease is a tumor. It's building tissue inappropriately. And a really good example of a disease that is contracting would be osteoporosis. You've got you've got bone disappearing. So it's excess contraction and excess expansion that needs to be managed. So if we put Earth in the middle of those, and she and she is not busy with protecting, and triple worm and cirque sex are there with all the details of the body and all the missions of the body, and not there, you know, in enforcement and policing, then you got all that extra qi, the throat behind the healing. I mean, all that they're not using that qi to control. Man, control's expensive to the body. Really expensive. Yeah. So that's a little bit about the Wu Ji, the Wu Tao, and the Wu Xing.
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